507BJ分手场景(慎入 重点更新在第二页 lovehydeken亲情翻译在第三页)

lurentt

自从看了预告片那个拥抱之后我一直对507有强烈的好奇心，现在我终于自食恶果了，这个剧情介绍太可怕了（如果不小心进来心脏脆弱的亲请别往下看吧 泪）
第二页有BM fight scene 更新 应该是J走了后跟B的第一次见面 我觉得比这幕更痛苦 亲们如果看的话自备手帕
英文不太好的亲们注意了 第三页有lovehydeken不辞劳苦的翻译 实在太感谢了 后面几页可能还会有翻译矫正和讨论 enjoy!!

原文地址：http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QA ... /62318?viscount=-30
作者Mark

I've been fortunate enough to be able to view the 507 break up scene.

Here is a recap, and unfortunately I am unable to post the clip to
the file.

Let me just say, Gale and Randy's performances in this scene are Emmy
worthy.

Scene begins with a close up of the big window in Brian's loft. It is
dark out, probably the early hours of the morning. You can see the
some of the buildings lit in the distance



There is a brief snippit of music. Whether it has lapped over from
the previous scene or not... can't tell, because I have seen on only
this particular segment....not the scene before or the one after.



The music swells a bit then fades. It does not sound like background
music but rather like it was coming from a radio or TV.



It is definitely the last few bars of a John Williams movie theme. At
first I thought it was Star Wars, but in reflecting, I am pretty sure
it is from the main theme of the original Superman movie.



Camera scans past the window and then.....



Close up of Justin lying back in the big white sectional couch. He
has his hands folded on his stomach with a faraway and contemplative
look on his face.



We see his head, shoulders and part of his torso. His head is
resting in the couch pillow and his shoulders and torso are flat in
the couch. He is nervously interlocking and releasing his fingers



Cut to loft door sliding open



Brian enters, looks at Justin and proceeds to the kitchen



Camera shot of Justin. He is lying completely horizontal. Upper body
flat on the cushion of the couch his legs a stretched out and feet on
the coffee table. While his body is perfectly still but he is
fidgeting his still clasped fingers.



Shot back to Brian headed the refrigerator, he glances and smiles
again at Justin



Close up of Justin. Slight flicker of a smile of greeting. He is
starting to crack his knuckles



He looks at Brian and suddenly the shot of Brian goes black and
white. Then he is wearing a tee-shirt instead of the dark silky
button shirt he was wearing at the beginning of the scene. Then he
pulls his tee shirt off and is shirtless with the open water bottle
in his hand . Then he is pouring the water over his head and bare
chest. Close up of Brian's face shaking his head and shaking off the
water. This is actually Justin visualizing that scene from 501 when
Brian brought him to the loft.



Back to color and the present. Brian is dressed as he was at the
beginning of the scene. He finally speaks. He is just opening the
bottle now.



B: The club was packed tonight



J: (slight monotone, as he sits up and stifles a slight yawn): mmmmm.
That's nice. (he stretches his arms in front of him)



B: Line was all the way around the block



J: (sitting up now. Takes a quick breath) Great



B: Hardly any room on the dance floor



J:. Whatever happens, by all means, keep on dancing. (a tinge of
sarcasm? Just a tinge. Mostly there is weariness to his voice)



B: (Looks at him as he fiddles with the cap on the bottle. Slightly
flip tone. Not unkind, though) What about you, dear? How was your
evening? (he gives Justin a little smile. Almost the smile of a
little kid)



J. (stands) Not *nearly* as exciting as yours (again, weary monotone,
until this next part, which is said more evenly and firmly but still
in a quiet tone). I spent it here...alone...thinking. (he approaches
Brian who is standing behind the counter.Flicker of a smile from
Justin) And don't say `always a dangerous sign'."



Brian runs his index finger and thumb across his pursed lips,
miming: "My lips are sealed."



Justin leans his back against one of the steel columns. They are
about a foot apart. The tone of the conversation is quiet, straight
forward, but not hostile



J: I made some decisions



B: (unpurses his lips) `bout what



J: My life



B: Ah!



J What I want



B: (he approaches J and is right next to him) I thought you had that
all worked out. You're going to live of your conSID-er-able
Hollywood wealth and try your hand at being an artist. (flicker of a
smile. He's trying to make a joke. He knows something is coming)



J: (very serious now and a tad irritated) Why are you making fun of
me?



B: (a bit taken aback) I'M not making fun.



(Justin looks at him with a slight raising of eyebrows. The message
is: "then what DO you mean?")



B: You're making me f**king nervous as hell (and his nervousness is
evident in his voice and face) (a loud out-take of breath is heard
from Justin) Just tell me what you want, what you decided..and we can
go to bed..and f**k.



J: (slight laugh and smile and shaking of his head). You already know
what I want. I already told you.



B: (His facial expression: `so THIS is what it's all about'. He
starts to turn away. Then he laughs) That's right. A husband (lapses
into Brianesque sarcastic tone) A family. A home (he draws this word
out: Whooome). EV-er-ything that makes life worth living.



J (not loud, but forceful) Would you F**King cut it out? (quietly)
Just *stop* it. (When he says "stop" you can hear what sounds like
him slapping the counter with the palm of his hand)



B is surprised by the strength of Justin's words and tone. He says
nothing.



J (sighs) And I KNOW you can't give me those things


B: "Not can't. `Can't' denotes that I'm incapable. It's that I won't.


J:I accept that. I suppose that is one of the the reasons I've always
loved you.



Brian (turns away) Oh. The un-tame-able beast.


J: (very reasonably, resolutely and calmly) But to be a couple both
people need to want the same things. Move in the same direction. But
if they can't... or ..won't (a bit of emotion creeps into his voice
for a second ) they really have no other place to go.



B: (Stares at him a minute. Blinks) Probably not.



J: Then why are we still doing this if we know it's never going to
work?



Closeup on Brian. He says nothing for about 5 seconds then for softly
says:



B: Damned if I know



J stares at him for another few seconds then turns and walks out of
the frame. Cut to Brian who takes a drink of water. He watches J as
he walks over toward the bedroom and picks up his leather jacket
which is on the step or riser leading to the bed. He puts it on, then
reaches behind the partition and pulls out his big duffel bag which
is packed and hoists it over his shoulder..Then he picks up his back
back and heads towards the door



Close-up on Brian who now understands Justin is leaving.



Full-length long shot of the two of them standing in the middle of
the room with the door behind them



Justin drops the bags. Brian looks down at them for a few seconds



Justin then reaches up with one hand and places it on B's shoulder
and then puts his hand on Brian's neck and pulls himself toward
Brian, standing on his toes slightly. He then puts his other arm
around Brian and pulls him into a hug.



Brian stands there with both arms awkwardly at his side and then
embraces Justin



They hug tenderly



Individual over-the-shoulder shots of both their faces nuzzling on
each other's necks.



B: Where will you go?



J: I'll think of something



They release each other and J moves to the door



Close up of Brian. He is clenching his jaw. Sadness but also
reflection, contemplation in his eyes. He is thinking, taking it all
in



He turns toward the door.



B: Let me know.



J is in the door way and he stares at Brian sadly and pulls the door
shut



close-up on Brian. He turns from the door and stares away
[s:203]

lurentt

下面是引用lqshuixin于2005-05-25 14:05发表的:
LZ你既然这么,好心把507的剧情放进来,为什么不好心到底,顺便翻一下呢,据知这里的英小白不是俺一个.

实在抱歉 不是我不愿意 本人的水平真是拖着词霸看完的 要是我翻译会绝对误人子弟的 要是亲你需要大概了解 可以发短消息给我 我是不敢贴在这个高手云集的坛子里的 汗

lurentt

下面是引用minicooper于2005-05-25 13:57发表的:
怎么会这样？？？这不是真的 这不是真的 这不是真的.......祈祷中~~~~555555555555

就算这样，j后来也回去了吧？？？要不爆炸那段怎么说？？哎.......................

我还没有看到过508，509的任何介绍 但是好象是爆炸的时候J才回到B身边的
据说他们分了之后在街上偶遇时都各自掩饰内心伤痛，尽量不表露出来

[s:203]

lurentt

我打了几大段全没了 我真想自杀了事 楼上的亲，看了你最后的一句话我心绞痛又犯了

lurentt

这里是BM fight scene in 507,来源相同。让我震惊的BM分开很大程度上竟然是因为BJ的问题，所以这段虽说是BM说话，却是BJ问题，关注的亲看下去，但是事先说明 B的痛苦超过了我的想象 我觉得这段比直接分手那段更刺伤我的心，请自备手帕

原文地址http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QA ... ilers/message/62577

Brian and Michael fight scene 507

This one is amazing scene folks. I have to tell you, Gale is
magnificent in portraying Brian's anger, but Hal does a good job too.
I'm sure there will be some !@#$ Novotny rants from some quarters
after you read this, but I'm telling you, Mikey was not off-base here.

It occurs in the same ep. as the B/J breakup...sometime afterwards,
but I do not know how close afterwards.

The scene:

The Bruckner-Novotny's.

A shot of the dark living room, seen from the side of the staircase

There is a loud insistant banging at the front door.

Lights come on and we hear Ben's voice

Ben: "Alright! I'm co-oming!匫kay. O-Okay"

Ben comes down the stairs and heads to the front door

Ben: (almost to himself as he reached the entryway)"Stop already?"

He pulls the door open revealing an agitated and apparently drunk
Brian, one arm is folded across his chest, his other is bent with his
elbow resting on the other arm. A cigarette in his hand, held near
his mouth

Ben: Brian?

Brian: (slightly slurring his words, weaving a bit) EX-ce-lent ,
perfessor. You have recognized the subject and iDIN -tified him. (a
little Georgia accent creeping in?)

Ben: We've gone to bed.

Brian: Right, I forgot The STEPFORD husbands (yells this in the
direction of the general neighborhood) TURN IN EARLY!

Ben: (grabs for Brian's arm to pull him inside): Get in here, you'll
wake the whole neighborhood

Brian gives him a "that's the whole idea" look. Puffs on the
cigarette, then throws it down on the porch and stomps it with his
foot, then walks past Ben into the house. Ben looks down a sec,
probably at the mashed cigarette on his nice clean porch.

Brian has stormed, or rather lurched into the middle of the living
room. Fire in his eyes and an evil Brianesque grin on his face

Brian: I want to see your wife. Where IS the little woman? Or little
huz-band!

Ben: You mean Michael?

Brian: (puts his hands up in front of his face and clenches his
fingers in a claw-like manner) Who the F**K else would I be referring
to?

Ben: He's aSLEEP!

Brian: (VERY serious now and in Ben's face. Combination shout and
growl) ROUSE HIM! Wake Him Up!! (looks toward the stairs) MICHAEL!
Get your ass down?br>
Ben tries to body block Brian, who moves around him

Ben: I think you better go, you better go

(he moves in front of Brian again)

Brian: (in an almost a kid-like neener-neener tone, accompanied by a
slight wagging of his head) I'm not going ANYwhere

Ben: Come on get out. I said get your ass out of my house. (Ben
shoves against Brian again and they back off and look as if they are
about to come to blows)

Michael's voice: It's OK Ben.

Michael comes down the stairs and walks around behind Ben to stand
looking up at Brian

Michael: (to Ben) I'll handle this. Go to bed

Ben; Ya sure?

Michael looks at him and nods. Ben goes up the stairs as Brian
smiles/leers at him. Michael turns to look at Brian with an "Explain
yourself!" expression

Brian sways back, smiles drunkenly and says

Brian: Well, Mikey. ConGRATulations.

Michael: For WHAT?

Brian: You WON!

Michael passes in front of him and goes into the dining room.

Brian: (following with the same drunken smile on his face) To the
spoiler... goes the victory.

Michael: I DON'T know what you're talking about.

Brian: Of COURSE you don't. No one plays dewy-eyed innocent like
you. (leaning into Michael's face and forming a sneer with each word)
Although at 35 you're getting a bit long in the tooth for short pants.

Michael: (sneering back) Speaking about outgrowing your act, nothing
is more pathetic, to use one of your favorite words, than an over-the-
hill club boy (turns and walks away)

Brian follows him chuckling in mocking tone. They walk into the
kitchen and Michael grabs the glass carafe from the coffee machine
and heads toward the sink. Brian leans into him again.

Brian: YOU infected him.

Michael stops and turns to look at Brian. Confused.

Brian: (furious) You and your petty bourgeois, mediocre, conformist,
assimilationist, life! (pause. They look at each other) Thanks to you
he has visions (sneeringly, mocking) Babies! Weddings! White picket
fences dancing (he points his forefinger to the side of his head) in
his blond little head.

Michael: and you think *I* put them there.

Brian: (waving his left hand in the air) Before you and your husband
tied the noose around your neck, he was (raging now) PERFECTLY HAPPY!
And now...he's a defector...just like the rest of y..

Michael (his turn to get into Brian's face and shout) He was NEVER
perfectly happy!

Brian stares a minute then walks around Michael and into the foyer.
Michael follows him, talking

Michael: Waiting for years for you to say, `I love you. You're the
only one one I want'.

Brian stops throws his hands up toward his face.. Then stops and
gestures with both hands to Michael.

Brian: That's... NOT...who... I am

Michael: (loudly, gesturing back at Brian with both hands) Don't we
ALL know!

Brian: (turns away. Line delivered in a slight sing-song manner) and
now...he's HERE..in YOUR... house.

Michael: (follows) It's not a house, it's a home

Brian (angry again. Turns to confront him) It's a FARCE. (practically
screams) It's a FREAK SHOW!

They are back where they started now with the side of the staircase
behind Michael.

Michael: (looking up at Brian defiantly) Call it what you want. I
really don't care. But he didn't leave because I inFECTed him.
(Michael is shown in close-up over Brian's right shoulder) He left
because of YOU.

Cut to Brian's face. He is silent, but he has a slight mocking smile
forming on his face.

Cut back to Michael

Michael: Who WOULDN'T?

Cut back to Brian. Silent. Not smiling anymore. In fact he is
stunned. He just stares. His mouth is slightly open and he remains
silent. Is he shocked by what Michael said it or that is it MICHAEL
who said it?

Close up of Michael's face

Close up of Brian's face

They stare at each other

Brian turns and walks away

Brian walks toward the camera which is shooting up from floor level .
Michael is by the stairs in the background. Brian walks directly into
the camera and out of the frame leaving Michael standing in the
background

Quick cut to the top of the stairs. Standing at the railing is a
sober-faced, sad Justin. He stands there for a couple beats , turns
and walks out of the frame

我没有想到B会把他的这一面给J看到。。。。。。。。我没什么别的想法，就是觉得 J怎么能忍住不追出去的，要是我肯定受不了了  [s:203]  [s:203]

lurentt

下面是引用cookiesumin于2005-05-26 19:18发表的:
志不同道不合，不相为谋。J分了就不会拖泥带水，干嘛要追，又不是琼瑶小说。他在308说他知道B能给他什么所以回到B身边(B也说了他能给只是不想给)，507J说既然他的愿望遥不可及，两人又何必继续耗下去，清清楚楚，干脆利落。B也没有错，That's who he is, judge yourself.CL更没错，他们又没拿着刀逼我们看，错的是观众，接受不了不看不就没事了。什么天不天理，现实就是残酷的，说US版不够真实，给点真实又哭天喊地，CL真是吃力不讨好呀。

首先欢迎大人光临鄙贴
大人的话我看到倒数第二句都在脸红接受中。有些道理明白不一定做的到，每个人看电视剧关注的东西不一样 获得的感情也不一样 事到如今 我已经不可能客观 公平 冷静的看待BJ之间的感情发展 看到他们分开我的心会很痛 所以忍不住发泄了一下。但是我又可以理解BJ的想法 所以很多时候只能怪到编剧头上了 我承认自己忽略了看贴人的心情 丧失了对CL的理解和尊重 我马上就把自己误导性的话语删掉 抱歉造成大家的不快。

其次我想说US版真不真实我是不知道 毕竟我身边没有可以参照的例子 但是 如果说这幕就是所谓的真实 恕我不能认同 这里我不是指J没有追出去或是怎的（我只是想他怎么可以忍心看B那样离开 不是说他真会追出去）而是说CL处心积虑的给5季增加BJ情感卖点的方法：首先是M建立新家对J造成的影响 生活观念的分歧导致矛盾不可调和化 然后一个梅毒变成导火索 他们分开了 。看到这里我尚且能够理解。我所不能理解的是如果CL传达给我们的是BJ追求生活的不一样 那这个裂痕显然不是一场爆炸后的一次真情表白能解决的问题。我不相信B在三集的时间里能颠覆掉他30几年建立的人生观和价值取向，那这样的复合有什么样的意义。我不是觉得B不会为了J而改变 而是觉得如今BJ的感情发展即使看到他们复合都有点胆战心惊。难道是CL也无法解决这样的问题 所以把J拍到纽约去了？我觉得他们分明有为了拉拢女性观众而故意折腾这两个的嫌疑。

lurentt

谢谢lovehydeken翻译~~~~！！！！！！！！我的程度太差所以不敢翻 你太伟大了 太崇高了 太了不起了！！！！！！！！！！！
我确实还满期待这两段的 用脚指头想我也知道他们会演的很好 会很精彩 而我会痛不欲生= =

lurentt

cookiesumin大人的修正基本上解决了我的疑问，虽然我程度很差 也不好意思闲着了 我把这拥抱的一段翻一下 这段我喜欢 蓝体字是截取原翻译 再次谢谢lovehydeken亲）
Justin drops the bags. Brian looks down at them for a few seconds
: Justin then reaches up with one hand and places it on B's shoulder
: and then puts his hand on Brian's neck and pulls himself toward
: Brian, standing on his toes slightly. He then puts his other arm
: around Brian and pulls him into a hug.
: Brian stands there with both arms awkwardly at his side and then
: embraces Justin
: They hug tenderly
: Individual over-the-shoulder shots of both their faces nuzzling on
: each other's necks.
J放下包，有几秒钟B就这样看着那包。然后J伸出一只手放在B的肩膀上，把手放在B的脖子上将他拉近自己，J稍微的掂起脚尖站着。随后他伸出另一只胳膊绕向B给了他一个拥抱。
B先是站在那里 他的手无措的放在两边，后来他回抱了 J
他们温和的拥抱着，用脸轻触对方的脖子。

B: Where will you go?
B:你要去哪裡

: J: I'll think of something
J:我會知道的
: They release each other and J moves to the door
: Close up of Brian. He is clenching his jaw. Sadness but also
: reflection, contemplation in his eyes. He is thinking, taking it all
: in
: He turns toward the door.
他们松开彼此，J向门走去 。B抽紧了下颌，他的眼睛里是痛苦深思的表情，他在思考发生的这一切，他向门那边走。
: B: Let me know.
B:記得要告訴我（这句是记得告诉我还是现在就让我知道呢？）
: J is in the door way and he stares at Brian sadly and pulls the door
: shut
J站在门边 他痛苦的注视了B一会 拉上门

结束

lurentt

下面是引用tsen0627于2005-06-01 16:12发表的Re:Re:507BJ分手场景（重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入）(from yahoo group):


Justin追出去也沒用吧！還能說什麼...
面對面，只是徒增傷心！明明相愛卻分離.... [s:188]

追出去是没用拉 可是要是让我看到那样的B离开 真不如把我心给割了
要知道 他走的时候连M也失去了 我简直不能想象他的痛苦
我假设一下要是我是J的话 你让我默默的站着那边看他走是绝对不可能的 但是追出去又没用 我只有把自己敲晕了免得难过         当然我不是J  所以 亲就当我这个多愁善感的女人自己幻想得了= =~~~~~~

我真的很怕看到B颓废的样子
[s:156]

lurentt

下面是引用jerry1007于2005-06-03 17:19发表的:
小J选择放手，他变成了另一个BRIAN!
BRIAN终于把小J改造成和自己一样的人了!

我大汗一个 这是什么意思？偶怎么完全理解不了？ [s:202]
J什么时候变成B一样了 根本没关系么 [s:192]