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作者: vivi熊 时间: 2006-5-25 14:58 标题: 为什么GLAAD不喜欢queer as folk

背景资料：
GLAAD stands for The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (gay & lesbian 反诽同盟）
The GLAAD Media Awards honor gay/lesbian achievements in various fields of media work. Besides film and television also achievements in theatre, music, print media and advertising are recognized.
GLAAD传媒奖奖励在媒体领域有成就的G/L。包括电影，电视，戏剧，音乐，印刷和广告领域。

QAF的GLAAD提名情况：
GLAAD Media Awards
Year  Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2006  Nominated GLAAD Media Award Outstanding Drama Series
2005  Nominated GLAAD Media Award Outstanding Drama Series
2004  Nominated GLAAD Media Award Outstanding Drama Series
2003  Nominated GLAAD Media Award Outstanding Drama Series
2002  Nominated GLAAD Media Award Outstanding Drama Series
全是NOMINATED，没有一次获奖

GLAAD算是一个相当权威的对同性恋媒体工作者的奖项，比较主流，连Desperate Housewives的演员都当过颁奖嘉宾。很多国外的FANS对于GLAAD对QAF的轻视都很气愤。

转一下我在国外网站上看到的一个帖子(后面有大概翻译)：

A couple of things you need to know about GLAAD. First of all, they're whores for corporate donations, and that will always influence their actions. Second of all, the org is dominated by lesbians, and not fun ones. They never really cottoned to Queer as Folk, as their lesbian director admitted in an interview. Some gays and lesbians basically belong to the Junior Anti-Sex League, and there's not a damned thing anybody can do about it. They've abandoned liberation politics in favor of assimilationism, and you'd better get with the program, marry, adopt crack babies, dress conservatively, and if possible say "God" a lot. When QAF was on, they gave their Outstanding Drama award to Six Feet Under -- and even to "Playmakers" on ESPN, with its one little gay subplot (the "co-worker coming out" plot we've all seen for decades; the first one I saw was on Medical Center). Playmakers, which the NFL hated, was pulled after that season and never seen again. Then there's the scandal of their "Favorite Out Image" award, to be chosen by online voting. The winner and runner up for the favorite gay characters in movies or on TV were (1.) Justin Taylor and (2.) Brian Kinney. That's not who they gave the award to, however. I archived the following:

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Presumably to one of the less angry emailers to GLAAD, this has been sent, with the instruction to post it online and generally pass the word. This is a new tack for GLAAD in the dissemination of its publicity, since its website, glaad.org, contains links to press releases going back several years. In this case, however, a formal press release was apparently thought undesirable.

Thank you for your recent e-mail concerning GLAAD's Favorite Out Image of 2003 award.

For several months, visitors to glaad.org were asked to cast their vote for their favorite "out" celebrity or character in film or television. The response was phenomenal and tens of thousands of votes were cast. Justin Taylor from Queer as Folk received the most votes, with Brian Kinney coming in second.

How odd! Only a couple of days ago, we were told that Eden Reigel of All My Children was voted the winner by participants in the online poll:

With the help of founding sponsor ABSOLUT VODKA, GLAAD promoted an online polling campaign in which fans voted for their favorite gay character or openly gay personality from the world of entertainment. The winner -- Bianca from "All My Children" -- was selected from voters in over 20 countries. Actress Eden Reigel, who plays Bianca Montgomery, accepted the award.

The impression is not merely that Ms. Reigel “won” but that she won through an international outpouring of support (I’m happy that GLAAD has so much international support, and I hope they raise a lot of money in Ecuador for their media outreach program in Zanzibar).

When voting ended, GLAAD notified Showtime Networks of the honor, and requested that Randy Harrison or Gale Harrold be available to receive the award at our Los Angeles ceremony.

Was Gale to have accepted for Randy, who won, or did they just not care which one they gave it to? Another example of their careful regard for the actual voting.

Because they were unavailable, GLAAD moved the presentation of the award to our New York ceremony, in order to have an additional few weeks to schedule their on-stage acceptance.

Wasn’t that nice! Especially since very little courtesy had been extended to Showtime, Queer as Folk, or the Queer as Folk actors going in. Here’s what their press release said when the poll was announced:

Among those listed on the Favorite Out Image ballot are openly gay celebrities such as the Fab Five from "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," Ellen DeGeneres, Melissa Etheridge and Isaac Mizrahi, as well as LGBT characters from film and television such as Will Truman and Jack McFarland from "Will & Grace," Bianca Montgomery from "All My Children," and Keith Charles and David Fisher from "Six Feet Under." Voters will also have the opportunity to write-in their favorite celebrity or character from the last year.

I’m so happy that, although the only dramatic series about gay men slipped their minds, they managed to mention both the gay characters from Six Feet Under, and didn’t even forget Isaac Mizrahi (now that would have been a crime).

As the date for the ceremony approached, GLAAD was notified that neither would be available. GLAAD made every effort to accommodate the two actors.

Why, I wonder, was it necessary to change the venue to New York City, where Randy Harrison does live, but is not currently working, and where Gale Harold does not live at all, and where neither has regular work? Both actors are on hiatus from shooting in Toronto, and both have appeared at various Showtime-organized events throughout the country in recent weeks (none of which, by the way, seem to have conflicted with GLAAD’s ceremony). At the height of a very expensive promotional campaign for the show, apparently Showtime and the actors eschewed having the show’s horn blown by an independent organization on behalf of thousands of fans in a ceremony to be publicized at GLAAD’s own expense. On the other hand, the change in venue was an extremely fortunate coincidence for Ms. Reigel, whose show is filmed in New York City with no hiatus whatsoever, all year around. The surely accidental circumstance that this change accommodated her needs so well was no doubt appreciated by her and by ABC. Have you noticed, by the way, the neat way in which GLAAD has now contrived to blame Showtime, and the two actors who actually won, for the fact that they are empty-handed? Not only couldn’t they come, we are told, but they cancelled as the date approached!

Because the character with the most votes was unable to accept the award on stage, GLAAD selected the person with the next highest number of votes -- Eden Reigel (Bianca Montgomery) from ABC's All My Children -- and happily presented her with the Out Image award. One of the key goals in creating this award was to ask the actor or openly gay person who received it to speak to the impact that his or her work has had on the community. Ms. Reigel was exceptionally eloquent in her speech at the New York Media Awards, discussing Bianca's journey into the homes of millions of Americans.

Are you, like me, surprised that your vote for Randy or Gale or Isaac Mizrahi or whoever was now supposedly subject to the availability of the celebrity to attend a particular ceremony? This was ostensibly an award destined for somebody who has made their image available all year, to the extent that thousands of fans were sufficiently familiar with it to vote for him or her. “Speaking” through their work wasn’t enough for the nominees, they had to be available to give just one more impactful speech for an audience in just one venue in just one city. Is it not odd also that Ms. Reigel’s remarks, so “eloquent” according to GLAAD, have been posted by GLAAD nowhere? But then of course, neither has this email been put in the form of a press release, according to GLAAD’s usual practice, and released, either.

GLAAD did not overlook the votes cast for Queer as Folk's Justin Taylor and Brian Kinney, nor was the content of the show or performance of the two taken into consideration in this decision.

Not overlooked, simply disregarded (and never mentioned in any publicity). The tally has still not been released, please note. And it’s good that the content of the show or performance was not “taken into consideration” because it wasn’t GLAAD’s business – once the nominees were posted – to notice it or overlook it or take it into consideration at all. From that point, it became the business of the voters, and their business only. But GLAAD certainly chose not to take into consideration the fact that these two actors – only these two – collectively garnered a full 45 percent of the vote, to Bianca’s (Eden Reigel’s) 4 percent. Even if one believes that Reigel was a last minute substitution (and I hope I’ve made it clear that I do not), it’s an incredible slap to the winning network and winning actor and the thousands of people who voted for them that Eden Reigel got to grab an award and make an “eloquent” speech just because she has no other gig, and isn’t in the same demand.

Queer as Folk has presented important issues affecting the gay and lesbian community in a groundbreaking fashion, ........

Why is GLAAD just now noticing this, and why is it only noticing it in a private email that the recipient is urged to pass around? In the publicity for the award, in the photographic images on glaad.org, where are the pictures of these groundbreaking actors or the recognition of their groundbreaking show. It lost GLAAD’s Best Dramatic Series award in L.A. to Playmakers (did they make sure that somebody from Playmakers would be available and threaten to snatch the show’s award away if they were not?). Playmakers’ plot arc about a closeted pro football player was welcome and notable, but it was groundbreaking only for Playmakers, not for television. And Playmakers is a cable program offering plenty of sugar to its male audience to coat the bitter pill of one gay character.

.... and we look forward to the new season slated to begin this weekend.

Look forward to it why? Does GLAAD plan to become interested in QAF again, after a two year lapse into insulting and ignoring it, with the start of the fourth season? Or is this simply a little bribe to Showtime and the QAF fans to keep quiet? If so, it isn’t much of a bribe, since it’s only intended for that select group of people who haunt Yahoo clubs and fan sites connected with Showtime programming and the groundbreaking show that can never do anything right, even this year, as far as GLAAD is concerned. Have you noticed that they can’t even spell Gale Harold’s name?

Sent by way of Matt Lum, GLAAD Digital Content Manager. Please feel free to post this response and forward it along.

Hey, no problem.
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Even when GLAAD bade farewell to QAF, they combineed it with a farewell to Six Feet Under, implying that both shows were of equal significance to the gay community. For reasons I won't go into here, I don't think Six Feet Under was any great gift to gays, but in any case, it would never have been greenlighted without QAF's success. It languished in development hell until QAF opened to great numbers and proved that gay content wasn't necessarily a turn-off to straight women. But Six Feet Under was very judgmental towards "promiscuous" gay men, and very invested in ordinary-looking gay guys getting together and acting married, so GLAAD was willing to approve.
                              ----ducdebrabant
大概翻译：
关于GLAAD，你要知道，首先他们是靠一些企业捐款维持的奖项（原作者说他们是WHORE，真不客气），所以在他们决定谁得奖时总会受到金钱因素的影响；其次，这个组织是被拉拉资助的，而且都是些不知娱乐的拉拉。他们的拉拉导演在一次采访中也承认，他们从来没有真正欣赏QAF。在GLAAD中的一些GAY和LESBIAN是“青年反性行为团队”的成员，所以你根本没办法阻止他们对QAF的排斥。他们为了被主流接受（同化）放弃了他们的本身可以拥有的自由政策，他们觉得你最好结婚，领养孩子，穿着保守，而且尽可能多说“GOD”。当QAF上映后，他们却把杰出剧情奖给了“SIX FEET UNDER”，甚至还给了ESPN的“PLAYMAKERS”，而这部片子仅仅将GAY作为次要情节（这种情节屡见不鲜了，在“职员出柜”和“急救中心”里的老把戏）。PLAYMAKERS，由于在NFL（应该是电视台）不受欢迎，因此还被腰斩掉，再没拍摄新的季度。后来又出现关于“最喜爱的银幕形象”奖的丑闻，这个奖项是在网上被选出来的。网上支持率最高的最喜爱的电视剧中的GAY角色是1，JUSTIN TAYLOR；2，BRIAN KINNEY。但他们并没有把奖给他们，我整理了以下资料。
（作者整理的资料我就不翻了，就是GLAAD网站对QAF FANS寄去表明愤慨的EMAIL的回复邮件，都是一些GLAAD的BULLSHIT，他们说什么GALE和RANDY不能去领奖，所以把奖给了排名第三的EDEN REIGEL，很多FANS对他们虚伪的说辞进行了反驳。）
在为QAF的举行告别仪式的时候，GLAAD也把SIX FEET UNDER的告别式也并在一起举行，暗示两部戏对GAY COMMUNITY同等重要。我根本不这么认为，我不认为SIX FEET UNDER对GAY们有什么有利的影响，而且不管怎么说，都是QAF的成功给它开了绿灯。在QAF证明GAY题材的片子对直女不无吸引力之前，SIX FEET UNDER的收视一片惨淡。但是SFU的剧情表现出对于滥交的GAY很不耻，而对普通的GAY约会和结婚很感兴趣，这些都是GLAAD很称道的。

P S后来我看了一下有关SIX FEET UNDER的介绍，那个片子其实也很不错，只是很多QAF FANS认为情节没有QAF那样贴近GAY的生活，所以QAF更值得GLAAD奖。

[ 本帖最后由 vivi熊于 2006-5-25 15:01 编辑 ]

作者: qqqq2046 时间: 2006-5-25 15:14

问BRIAN，他知道答案，虽然尖刻鸟点~~~

辛苦VIVI鸟，谢谢翻译~~~~~~~~

作者: 苏伊塞特 时间: 2006-5-25 15:33

唉大家喜欢的都不会获奖
获奖的是我们看不懂的

作者: Siren'sWhisper 时间: 2006-5-25 16:46

现在看了这个，感觉qaf里的某些情节好像就是讽刺这个组织的

作者: cherry 时间: 2006-5-25 17:00

评奖的只是小部分人，而他们的喜好决定奖项！！！

作者: 芦山深处 时间: 2006-5-25 17:15

小四，你的签名是怎么回事？我要晕了……

作者: 夜之微 时间: 2006-5-25 17:48

Ｍｍｍ．．俺又有点无语鸟．．．８过谢谢ＶＩＶＩ的翻译．＾＿＾

原帖由 芦山深处 于 2006-5-25 17:15 发表
小四，你的签名是怎么回事？我要晕了……

她玩滴小把戏．．．．．em08em43
８过俺也只认得三个，第一个小孩素谁．．．em02

[ 本帖最后由夜之微于 2006-5-25 18:13 编辑 ]

作者: candyperfume 时间: 2006-5-25 21:05

这个吧。。。。怎么说呢，我觉得GLAAD对QAF就算不错了，也算什么高帽子都给QAF戴过了。
QAF的确是在这五季里涉及到了许多gay community的问题，例如: 出柜，HIV，同性恋家长监护权，乱交，吸毒，gay婚姻。。。在这方面
QAF确实很牛，或者说C/L确实很牛。但问题是，这些情况在QAF里都被喜剧般的简化处理了。作为第一部真正的gay电视剧，QAF一个致命的缺陷是，C/L想让大家看到真实的gay community，但实际上大多数看了这部电视的gay认为他们并不是那样生活的（randy也这么说过）；制片方已开始的目标市场的是gay和一部分家庭主妇，结果最后看这部片子，迷这部片子的大多是16—30岁的
异性恋女性。说实在的，要论QAF的贡献，也就是因为它是第一部真正意义上的gay电视剧，至于剧情确实也就那么回事儿了。我不知道LZ看过没看过Six Feet under，相比QAF，SFU稍微还有些让人可思考的东西。所以GLAAD会把奖给SFU一点也不奇怪，老美评奖一般都会把奖颁给真正的正剧（drama），
QAF相比之下，太soap了。。。

作者: mmmy 时间: 2006-5-25 21:18

看了半天总算看完了,谢谢LZ资料.
其实得奖只能算锦上添花吧，不喜欢QAF不会因为它拿了奖而去喜欢它,而喜欢的会一直支持它.
很久以后再说起来人家还会承认QAF是个奇迹.

作者: vivi熊 时间: 2006-5-25 21:23

原帖由 candyperfume 于 2006-5-25 21:05 发表
这个吧。。。。怎么说呢，我觉得GLAAD对QAF就算不错了，也算什么高帽子都给QAF戴过了。
QAF的确是在这五季里涉及到了许多gay community的问题，例如: 出柜，HIV，同性恋家长监护权，乱交，吸毒，gay婚姻。。。在 ...

呵呵,CANDY说得很理智,其实我认为GLAAD还是比较主流的,象QAF绝对是最大胆和诚实地反映GAY的片子,把GAY COMMUNITY不好的一面也反映出来,如果颁奖给它,可能怕有不好影响.象SFU那样打檫边球的就比较保险,就象OSCAR不把奖给BBM一样,考虑的社会因素多了.说到GROUDBREAKING,还是觉得QAF应该获得这项荣誉,怎么说呢,QAF是QAF饭的心头肉啊,很多FANS的不平都是可以理解的.

P.S. 我倒是觉得没获得杰出剧集还比较合理,但是"最喜爱银幕形象"应该在网上评出,而GLAAD不遵守奖项规则的确有失公允了

[ 本帖最后由 vivi熊于 2006-5-25 21:27 编辑 ]

作者: dchx 时间: 2006-5-25 21:35

同意candy，《六尺之下》确实很不错，虽然Gay是老二，但是在他身上是很有些思考的，这个剧讨论的主题也挺深刻，得奖是应当的。
我一直认为QAF描写的过于乌托邦，兼之后两季野心越来越大，大有Gay的话题舍我其谁的架势，但这么复杂的社会问题岂是区区几十集的收费电视剧所能解决的？又要讨好观众群又想坚持理念又想严肃讨论又不想牺牲收视，愁死他们了~~~
QAF的价值在于它的勇气和开创性，他是一个不完美的闯将，不论他是以什么样的姿态走过来的，他都是第一个。从这个意义上说得不得奖是无所谓的，在Gay剧历史上他是写上了一笔的，而你决不会看到《六尺之下》。这还不够吗？

作者: Nellie 时间: 2006-5-25 21:51

这种性质的奖项, 就别去稀罕了~

作者: manman76 时间: 2006-5-25 22:11

来顶一下，为了VIVI熊的个性签名，图实在截得太漂亮了，Gale实在是美神。我想应该是用比较特别的软件截的吧，真的太让人。。。流口水了。如果能搞大的，做桌面就好了

作者: vivi熊 时间: 2006-5-25 22:35

原帖由 manman76 于 2006-5-25 22:11 发表
来顶一下，为了VIVI熊的个性签名，图实在截得太漂亮了，Gale实在是美神。我想应该是用比较特别的软件截的吧，真的太让人。。。流口水了。如果能搞大的，做桌面就好了

这个...很高兴大家喜欢我的签名,要特别谢谢四姑娘,中间那个RANDY的图是她做的(起先我并不知道),截图我都是用暴风影音,很好用,制作当然离不开PHOTOSHOP了.

作者: 花花草草 时间: 2006-5-29 21:28

中间那张签名是Dior Homme的品牌照啊！原来那个model也很不错的说！

作者: 大爱 时间: 2006-5-29 21:39

原帖由 candyperfume 于 2006-5-25 21:05 发表
制片方已开始的目标市场的是gay和一部分家庭主妇，结果最后看这部片子，迷这部片子的大多是16—30岁的异性恋女性。

我不知道LZ看过没看过Six Feet under，相比QAF，SFU稍微还有些让人可思考的东西

我就是一个，虽然是直女，但就是喜欢看！

我正在下Six，不是说殡葬业的吗？是gay片，老实说看了介绍就很兴致缺缺的说

太严肃的我不喜欢

作者: 大爱 时间: 2006-5-29 21:55

原帖由 dchx 于 2006-5-25 21:35 发表
我一直认为QAF描写的过于乌托邦，兼之后两季野心越来越大，大有Gay的话题舍我其谁的架势，但这么复杂的社会问题岂是区区几十集的收费电视剧所能解决的？

其实看的出来，QAF的编剧是想写一些深入的东西，其实这还是很不错的，
比如吸毒，同志婚姻，收养，疾病，慈善比赛，
同志被仇恨者（恐同志）伤害，由忍受变成了过度防卫，直到变成一个仇恨者（恐直人）
浪子发现真爱并为之改变

这些想法都是很好的，也显示出QAF并非只谈情说爱，也并非只有fuck
但问题是，编剧完全没有掌握好火候，特别是最后几季，和前几季基调的脱节就不谈了
总感觉，他有很多东西要说，但都是出来一个想法，很简单就过去了

比如Brian的癌症，虽然狗血了点，但要是处理的好，也可以显示出Brian对生命的反思，对抗疾病的过程，以及Justin无微不至的照顾，这样引出Brian最终心甘情愿的做个家庭妇男，又自然，又不突兀，又温馨感人

但我看到的是，Brian开了个刀，呕吐了几次，喝了碗中药，没了．然后一个电话，他痊愈了，然后继续fuck
如果没有篇幅好好的铺呈自己的想法，那就少写几个，不要拿出来一堆点子，结果都是几笔就完了，草草了事
那还不如好好的，流畅的把几个最好的点子拍出来的说

[ 本帖最后由大爱于 2006-5-29 22:37 编辑 ]

作者: brigityee 时间: 2006-5-30 11:55

严重同意Candy，

得奖不等于观众喜爱，它的设置不是AI更不是超女，它是要有高于生活具有广泛社会意义的主题。其实偶也是热爱QAF大大多于SUF的，但实话实说，很同意老师写的“Gay的话题舍我其谁的架势”，英国的一个清新小品被移植到美国成为类型巨制，山姆大叔的典型风格，当然也成就了我们。不是QAF不好，是它太类型化了，它的世界就是homo们的世界，它不是我们这个大直人社会下的同性恋群体，我们是他们大同性恋社会下的直人群体，所以QAF是梦境是天堂虽然也有邪恶。

QAF得不得奖的真的无所谓，有偶棉这么多的饭，值了；但SUF得奖，也是有实力有内涵有巨大社会意义的。

作者: maxzex 时间: 2006-8-12 23:05

QAF真的不错啊，居然不得奖

作者: TOMO69 时间: 2006-8-13 14:33

关于奖像是有非常多的内幕的。.饿觉得得不得奖不重要。.重要的是人们喜不喜欢...收是率高不高

作者: joyljay 时间: 2006-8-19 05:24

不管什么奖,都有黑幕,也从来没有公平过......................

作者: puremelody 时间: 2006-9-2 21:25

不论是Brian&Justin还是Randy&Gale都不会give a shit的～^^

作者: mige28 时间: 2006-10-29 22:14

我觉得brian的台词从来都是很让人深思的，
至于这个奖项我想，即使给了bj，他俩也准会放这个奖的鸽子，临了不去拿的，所以也就没什么所谓

作者: zh19821206 时间: 2006-11-2 14:51

在这时候，收视就明确的代表了QAF的成功，不管是什么电影电视都是拍出来给人看的，没人看得再多奖也就只是个名而已。

作者: 9yue十9 时间: 2006-11-7 16:06

价值观不一样，自然不被讨好。

作者: angelawulin 时间: 2006-11-18 19:46

只要我们喜欢就好了。永远支持qsf，支持Brian~

作者: yueyue 时间: 2006-12-2 16:42

QAF是我们心中的NO 1

作者: TeddyCarey 时间: 2006-12-24 14:14

可能是评奖的规则不一样吧!

作者: TeddyCarey 时间: 2006-12-24 15:18

楼主,请问你的签名里面,小J的那张图片有没有全身的,而且是彩色的?

作者: leven 时间: 2006-12-24 15:33

怎么说呢，得奖当然更好，不得也无所谓了

作者: sumerfeng 时间: 2006-12-27 21:39

Q 是无冕之王

作者: panda21822 时间: 2007-1-13 01:34

管它们喜不喜欢
自己爱就好啰~

作者: lonelyisland 时间: 2007-1-17 01:15

QAF得不得奖，大家都一样喜欢看，收视率就是最好的奖励，看看，完结一年多还有这么多人在看、在讨论本身就已经证明它的吸引力了，虽然对剧组工作人员和演员们不太公平，因为他们实在出色，不过一部电视剧能让非一线演员拥有大批忠实影迷也可以算是对他们的一种补偿。我以前就喜欢多位美国的二线演员，演技太棒了！

作者: edwardxu 时间: 2007-1-17 17:35

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作者: s12188 时间: 2007-2-25 14:09

劇情給了 "SIX FEET UNDER" 真的是叫人很不能諒解
有時候保守派的作風無法令人茍同
我就是覺得傳統道德在打壓同志
SIX FEET UNDER我看了很長一段時間
根本連次要情節都算不上
因為次數實在少之又少
問題也避而不談只是帶過
哪有深度啊~~~!!!
雖然這個已經是老話題了
重新看到我還是不平的再次發聲!

作者: kuluya 时间: 2007-2-27 17:05

所有的奖项也只能代表一部分的人的想法
现在对奖项社么的毫不感冒em21

作者: BABYLONTEENS 时间: 2007-2-27 17:08

不要搞得象超女一样恶心em02

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-3-8 15:37

whore＝＝||||
够狠的哈，不过类似组织的确要看sponsor的脸色吧，
whore……………………哈哈哈哈哈…………………………狂笑三分钟

作者: lindayuyu 时间: 2007-3-8 21:34

原帖由 苏伊塞特 于 2006-5-25 15:33 发表
唉大家喜欢的都不会获奖
获奖的是我们看不懂的

说得好，最惨的是本土的金鸡奖＼百花奖．．
我从来都坚信什么越难看就越能得奖－　－

作者: adayang0326 时间: 2007-3-10 08:54

奖，不过是一个游戏。喜欢就好。不用考虑那么多。。。

作者: hei224224 时间: 2007-4-4 18:01

得不得奖无所谓：
justin和Brian的爱不需要婚姻去证明，qaf的成功也不需要奖项去证明！

作者: hice 时间: 2007-4-23 23:48

fk the Glaad award...we still support qaf...there's always unfair in our life...

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